This is terrific - what a capturing, intriguing, intense story! I've started it a few weeks ago and make my way through it slowly, as I want to savour the intensity you are bringing to it for me. I'm enoying it enormously, and I'm very taken with the way you describe Legolas and his uniqueness as an elf, his affinity to the song and the nature around him. I think this is the first time I'm reading such a special, beautiful and well-fitting description of the elvenness of a character, and of the difference between an elf and a human apart from the obvious physical differences.
In this first chapter, I also really love your Éomer and the way he perceives his surroundings and the happenings in your story, and, of course, Legolas.
Your Gríma is excellent, too, in a very chilling way, and I really love your horsey bits.
Oh THANK YOU Ysilme! I love that someone os reading this very old tale. I really appreciate your comments about Legolas- he very different for me and his silvan nature makes him very attuned, as you say, to the Song and Nature. It just felt right to me as Tolkien has him listeing to stones and trees and the wind.
I'm a horse-mad woman so love writing the horses. Thank you for noticing:)
I don't think I liked the twins in this - maybe I will like them more in Sons of Thunder.
I liked the wealth of details - Gimli chewing his beard especially. You really got inside the characters - I feel as if I know them now. Enough to invite them around for a cup of tea and a slice of cake, anyway :D
I read this on my breaks during several night shifts - I guarded my Kindle like a snappy rottweiler because I didn't want my co-workers playing with it and losing my place lol
Will be starting the next in the series very soon :D
Um- you won't like Elrohir for ages! But then you will I hope- about chapter 30 lol! But you may understand why he is as he is. It's really odd but I had no idea why I wrote them like this when I finished Songs. It was only because Anar said there was a sequel that I started writing it- weird.
That's such a compliment about knowing the characters- I miss them when I don't write! Gimli, Legoals and Pippin were so easy to write and I found their 'voices' very easy to hear.
Hope you do read and enjoy Sons- I feel I owe you because I've had such fun reading Jeli!!
Wow. I did not expect this ending somehow, and yet I think it’s utterly perfect. I love the bitter-sweetness, I think it fits the times and the world perfectly and I don’t know what’s wrong with me that I was thinking it could ever end any other way.
Saurman: the way you wrote his encounter with Legolas blew my mind! I loved all the magic, his voice, the power, and Legolas’ despair after, his shame. It was really powerful.
Ok, so I want to slap Elrohir. I’ve got to read the Sons of Thunder now so I get at their POV because right now I think both the twins are asses, and Elrohir is the worst of everything Noldo. The way he dismissed Legolas as if he were nothing, just Urrrrg! I am sure they have their own story though, and really, I think this is probably a thousand times truer of how they would have acted than anything I’ve ever read even if I am wrestling with it. The twins were, without a doubt, dark. I agree with this portrayal of them. They hunted orcs in the wilds for years, and I think, made a bit of a sport out of it, which tells you something of their physic right there. I agree that they probably would have been very aloof. But that doesn’t stop me wanted to smash something over Elrohir’s head lol!
This story was such a treasure to read. It sucked me in and pounded me with its desperation and darkens and also made me laugh with Legolas and Gimli’s magical friendship and cheekiness. I was tearing up at the scene when Gimli and Legolas look deeply into each other’s faces and promise to be friends forever! Beautiful.
One of the great things about Anar as a beta is that she pushes me in particuar ways - and she was most insistent that this was how it needed to end- She wrote the final sentence as I recall. Its wonderful working with another writer. You weren't alone in hoping for a more permenent relationship between them but then Legoals would have to be beareved and face the world without Eomer, and you have the complication of Lothiriel and I like to keep to canon overall.
Oh yeaaaahhhh! Leeerv your antipathy to Elrohir- he is an absolute B***** but you'll understand gradually if you read Sons- but it's very long. Yes, I agree they must have made hunting orcs a sport - I've done something with that is More Dangerous but probably not really enough. I am saving that for later really because Legoals is not like that and shocked by gratuitous violence but also violent himself. That sor tof interests me - the degree and intesnity of violence against crulety and revenge - those two things are quite carefully balanced.
Thank you -your review was just lovely, what I need to get me writing. I am a hungry writer!
Ah, so now it really begins to get complicated! I am getting fearful for Eomer, he’s obviously falling for Legolas, yet Legolas is so Other (and wonderfully so!), but I wonder if he returns Eomer’s feelings or if he’s just hiding how he feels?
OH but I loved it this scene: “'Is it so hard to think?' the elf had said softly, holding his gaze. Eomer had stared, believing the elf must see his thoughts. The long green eyes were flecked with gold, deep green like the forest...alien, ancient and strange. But in the battle there had been a crazed lust for battle in the elf's eyes which had been reflected in the eyes of orcs.”
That Eomer could see some similarities between Legolas and the orcs was not only well done, it is something not delved into enough in fan fiction, I think. I loved how you had the orcs drawn to Legolas in the battle with a special kind of hatred, and the way he fell into such bloodlust. You have really done such a wonderful job making Legolas not only an elf (an so inhuman and different) but also a Woodelf. I imagine if a Noldo were to stand side-by-side with Legolas their differences would be readily apparent, and I don’t just mean looks.
AH- now you see, that is exactly waht interests me- the differences. Eomer sees Legolas is that way, and later Elrohir sees him in a different way and in More Dangerous, he is amongst Elves so is not Other -but still different enough to excite curiosity and interest. And as I am obsessed, he's adored by everyoner of course- I wrote to indulge myself if I'm honest.
Thank you for your kind words- I always treasure these sorts of comments especially from another writer whom I admire.
Oh wow - that is such a nice review. This was my first fic so I htink it's a bit raw in many ways but if it made you like the pairing and you have fallen for Legolas, well, my work here is done!!
Yes, that song!! He does another at the start of Sosn that is just as cheeky, if not worse!
Thank you for reviewing.
I love Eowyn -when I first read LoTR Arwen completely escaped my notice and so I really related to Eowyn and went off Aragorn completely because he didn't want her. As you say, Legoals got there first and he really does understand - and is so beautiful. I am so in love with him!!! Maybe it does need another chapter- I have thought that. It doesn need one where she meets Faramir really. Thank you Encairion.
Wow! The way you described Legolas' beauty was stunning! You did an incredible job showing us his beauty, his inhumanness, and not just telling :D
I loved this: "Grima opened his eyes wide for a moment, as if he remembered something, long ago, when he was young and believed he could be the Man he wanted to be. And suddenly he stepped back as if struck...and he lifted his hands before him as if warding off a blow. 'Stop! Stop him!' Grima raised his fist to strike the Elf but his wrist was caught by an iron grip. For a minute, everything seemed frozen. Grima cringed before the tall Elf, his upraised hand caught in Legolas’ strong grip and the Elf stood tall and his long hair swept down his back. His strong beautiful face was full of compassion and Grima cringed from that as much as the pain of his grip."
Legolas looking deeply into Grima and showing him what he'd become, making him feel shame for that moment, and then looking upon him with compassion was so perfect. I can very much see an elf carrying this power of looking into someone, and I think it fits beautifully with Legolas' character that he would be moved with compassion for Grima even after all the worm was planning and doing to him.
Simply gorgeous. Well done :D
Thank you Encairion- it is so nice to get reviews of something written a long time ago now, and it reminds you what you wrote. You know what I mean. Grima struck me as being a sad little man really- vulnerable and used by Saruman - and I am so in love with Legolas:)
Wow, just wow! I've never read a story with a Legolas/Eomer paring that I liked, but this...this completely blew me away! Well done. I love how you've emphasized the inhumaness of Legolas. I competently agree that not only would a human see an elf's beauty, they would also be sharply aware of their inhumaness.
Also, I like how you aren't afraid to make Legolas one tough elf. I've read some Legolas/Aragon stories that pretty much shuffle Legolas to the role of a woman, which is so unfortunate. Two men can have a relationship without one having to be the 'women' in it. So thank you for that.
Really nice work with this, thank you for sharing it :D
Thank you Encairon- espeically since I have been enjpying the gift of your work so if you've enjoyed mine, that's great. I hate woosy Legolas too- he's an Elf, they are stonger than Men, more grancful but built for eternity- they must be tough, and I Like the idea of difference but similar. I'm so pleased you enjoyed this and than you for letting me know.
Ding! Dong! the witch is dead...wrong story I know but it applies well to Grima.
I was reading your story in the hospital waiting room and nearly missed them calling my name because i was so into it.
Poor Eomer being left in the cell lol
Oh fin1 i am intensely flattered and sorry at the same time:) So glad you liked this. xx
Oh fin - I am intensely flattered and sorry at the same time:) So glad you liked this. xx
Hahaha! Legolas bit Grima's tongue - serve him right lol
I am sorry I missed this- I have been so tardy in repsonding to reviews! Thank you- oh yes! Legolas is no shrinking violet!
What a wonderful start - I loved the powerful descriptions of Legolas and Wormtongue. I was reading this on my Kinde and had to force myself to stop at the end of the chapter otherwise I might have read all night.
Thank you Glorfindel! It gets better once Anarithilen got invovled as my beta - and of course later on, Elrohir is on it but this is not his story. I know you don't like the twins and this wont help at all!!!! Now - just off to read TBM and then follow up with JIV!
Aaaah... it is a good ending, even though we know that it is really only a pause.
And I still want to knock the heads of the sons of Elrond, possibly all three, together and shout at them that they should not doubt Legolas' worth, nor dismiss him as of little importance, just because the Elrondionath and the D
Oh this chapter made me cry again, too. I so want to take Legolas and cuddle him and tell him it'll be alright. And poor Pippin, who was only trying to help, he needs a cuddle too. Pass me the tissues, again...
Here you go. Extra soft kleenex.
Love that you had a little blub over this! Thank you dear.
Oooh - Marvellous, Ziggy. All those wonderful and beautiful details of people and place and emotion that make your work so rich, and the sweep onward into Sons, like a stallion gathering itself into a canter and then a gallop.
I am so ready for Sons again!
I love that image! I did get really excited when writing Elrohir! Posting ch 11 now I think
Oh- I have an epilogue in me after all. It is haunting me but I may publish it seperately...because I havent dealt with the Mirkwood problem yet- whether what Saruman shows L is real or not...
Hehehe! I feel for Gimli. A cheery Legolas is the last person you'd want around when you're hung over.
I think it's a good thing I already know the outcome of SoT or I'd be really upset by the twins' dismissal of Legolas here. I wanted to cheer Merry when he defended him :)
Now back to the start of SoT. Can't wait :)
Will post one tonight just for you!
Yes- they seem dismissive anyway but Elladan is warmer than they think- Eomer thinks he is heartened by Merry's response. And you know what all of that's about!!
Legolas touching Eowyn’s heart as a warrior equal was sincere. I believe that is why he did not kiss her. And if it makes any sense, the same warrior kinship he and Eomer share is why he did kiss him. Legolas is wise, though he denies it. The line, “the time of elves is over, the time of men will never begin” is sad and true. His dedication to the fellowship and Rohan touches my heart.
How old is Legolas? And he only learned to pick a lock 500 yrs ago?
Again as always enjoyed this.
Ooh- so sorry, thought I had answered this one sweetie! I have no idea how old Legolas is - he is dreadful and just throws lines around without any regard for years or ages or anything.
And he doesn't kiss eowyn because he sees her vulnerablity and knows there is so much more for her to lose than Eomer- remember how Gimli warns him? But Eomer is a man of the world.
Oh, and when I was writing it, everyone wanted it to be Eomer but I wanted it to be Eowyn, which is why I wrote Rohan's Gold.
Hope that answers all your questions lisse. Lovely as always to hear from you- keep asking stuff!
Oh Ziggy, this chapter made me cry... again.
cyber tissues on their way! x
I love that moment of understanding, when Gimli recognises what Legolas feels, in his own terms.
For Legolas to feel such depth in the song, so very much a Wood Elf now must make what comes at Isengard even more difficult for him.
As for Legolas not really singing bawdy songs - I see it more or less as canon by now... I once wrote a drabble with something not unlike going on in it - as I know links get stripped out you'll need to put the http and the // back in front of this - at least I hope it will let this through! tolkien-weekly.livejournal.com/542392.html
Just read it and thoroughly enjoyed that sense of complete mischief. Love what you did with gimli -it's funy snt it, he sort of lends himself to the straight man sometimes.
I have liked developing the sense that Gimli is stone to Legolas' air. Thank you for commneting on that.
Aaah.... at last. Time to catch up. I really like the rework of this chapter. I see
He is not important.
Oh Elrohir - you'll be eating those words before long. It was painful to read how the twins dismissed Legolas so casually. It made me want to slap them. A good thing they both improve on further acquaintance :)
Yes, I can see how Aragorn tried so hard to avoid taking the Paths of the Dead. And to be fair, he didn't have any choice. But I agree with your comment regarding him and Eowyn. I much preferred Eowyn to Arwen in the books. Arwen just sat and waited for Aragorn to claim her. The most she did was sew that banner. Eowyn is far more interesting :)
LOVE your comment about the banner! Sooo true! And in the film, PJ tried to give her a higher profile didnt he but even so it meant no Glorfindel and I found that even harder to forgive!
I'm glad Aragorn s a bit redeemed. He does pay for it during Sons too with guilty recirminations and a very hard tme from Gimli.
Yes- that throway casual dismissal is dreadful isnt it- but tis also Elrohir's denial. He's got one more little part in the last chapter but it belongs really to Eomer. I had not relasied just how small a part he plays actually in the last chapters so it was good to revisit.
Thank you as always Naledi!
Utterly beautiful slash! I loved the extra scene. Knowing how Eomer is going to react in the future give more meaning to “It is what it is and no more, it is no less.” I so understand seeking life after being so close to death. I like to think Legolas was sitting there so still calling Eomer and was not surprised to see him.
A very lovely scene.
Thank You Ziggy
Another incredible chapter. I could be in the middle of this, every-one, every image, every emotion is so incredibly vivid.
And because I know what is going to happen, I was almost unable to sit on the seat to read when the Grey Company came into the chapter: Elladan and Elrohir, Legolas' near-dazzled hero worship, Elrohir's closed-up coldness and his pitiless: He is not important to Aragorn, when Legolas will become so incredibly important to him.
I am such an incoherent fangirl at the moment, Ziggy!
Oh I Love that last sentence! Thank you- it made me smile. Poor Elrohir- if only he knew! I've tried not to overdo the dramatic irony so I hope it doesnt overwhelm everything else- becuase really, this one was about Eomer and I didn't have the faintest idea that Elrohir was going to get so obsessed! But there are extra little details in this that I hope work. Last chapter almost finished but I'm faffing about anf just need to postit really.
I sometimes think he was always going to kill Legolas off- he had him injured in the first draft in Moria and staggering over th ebridge of Khazad-dum.
Really? I never knew that and I thought I was thoroughly versed in all things Legolas. Was that from one of the HOME books? I'm so relieved Tolkien didn't kill him off. I would have been inconsolable. I was only ten when I first read LOTR and I was in love with Legolas from the moment of his first appearance :)
I read that in an article once about the earliest drafts so I think its not been kept anywhere. I htink it was a discussion between Christopher T and a literary critic. Only the bit about being injured - I fell in love with Legolas when Aragorn did not respond to Eowyn, with whom any girl will identify I think as Arwen is only this shadowy figure somewhere in the back ground. In terms of writing I think this is a real flaw in the narrative and as Spiced always says, Tolkien's great skill was in creating this utterly beleivable world with epic tales rather than character. But I like the gaps he leaves because we have filled them and keep doing so!
Legolas suddenly caught a tremor in the air. He leaned towards it slightly, listening. There was the sound of the wind in a banner fluttering. Steady heartbeat, horses as steady in their hearts as their riders, and amongst them, something else…a flutter of excitement in the pit of his stomach and he thought he heard an eagle cry high, far above pristine snow. It seemed his destiny approached.
*punches the air* Yes!
Yes- that's how I felt writing this!